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Color Me Purple and Being Smart, Radio Interview, Madison, WI

On Saturday, Dec. 10 I had the honor of discussing Color Me Purple and the concepts and theories behind it on “All About Living with Carol Koby” on Hank AM radio 1550 & 97.7 FM.

Carol introduced the program in the following way: “In her latest book, Color Me Purple, author and educator, Ellie Schatz, tells the fictionalized story of 8 children from 8 different ethnic and cultural backgrounds who are smart in 8 different ways. It shows all children that they have different kinds of smart inside them, and knowing about their kinds of smart will help them to be who they want to be. The book is illustrated by Donna J. Parker and written for children 8-12. Ellie describes the broad range of smarts from math smart to sports smart and how these smarts can be supported and applied today to help children develop their fullest potential. Ellie Schatz is the founder and former president of the Wisconsin Center for Academically Talented Youth and also authored, Grandma Says It’s Good to Be Smart.”

If you were unable to listen on Saturday the program will be posted on



Is it good to be smart?

Obviously I think yes. That has been the premise of my work for decades as a teacher and non-profit executive, and is currently the premise of my children’s books, including the one I’m working on now with a multi-cultural focus. Is that what  you think?

The reason I ask is that I talked with a grandmother of a 3-year old this past week. She said of her grandson, “My daughter-in-law won’t let me tell him he’s smart. I naturally want to say, ‘_____ you’re so smart.’ She says, ‘Don’t say that. Say you are a good problem solver or I like the way you figured out how to…’

“So,” the grandmother asked, “you disagree with her?” My quick answer was yes, but it’s not that simple.

I think it’s a shame when children learn at home as well as at school that being smart is something to be ashamed of. Or, if it’s not shame, it’s taboo. We just don’t say we’re smart.

The point of my book for small children is to do exactly what this grandmother’s daughter-in-law was doing, but with one significant difference. When I say “exactly the same,” I mean the book defines what some of the characteristics of being smart are – reading, using a good vocabulary, problem-solving, imagining, being good to the world around us, etc. By a significant difference, I don’t think the daughter-in-law should make the word ‘smart’ taboo.

I used to do parent workshops on being gifted where at the beginning of a session, I would ask people to “stand up if you’re a good runner, a good pianist, a good cook,” etc. People would stand up with no hesitation to being good at different specific skills. Then I’d move on to “stand up if you’re creative, smart… gifted.” Usually people are comfortable with creative or smart, but rarely if ever are they comfortable with calling themselves gifted. This is the consequence not of anti-intellectualism but rather of a problem with comparing and labeling in our society. I choose to use the word smart in my books for young children because everyone should be proud to be smart. I’m troubled that this parent is not giving her child the freedom to understand that it is smart to be able to skillfully use all of his developing aptitudes in a positive way.

So, the bottom line? Grandma Ellie says it’s good to be smart. Grandma Ellie doesn’t limit her discussions of being smart to the skills in her book. Talking about using our cognitive as well as emotional and social abilities as we grow and learn and admitting there is a concept called “smart” can only help our children to understand themselves and others.